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	<title>Comments on: Picture of Apache?</title>
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		<title>By: Shane Curcuru</title>
		<link>http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/bayard/entry/821#comment-1240</link>
		<author>Shane Curcuru</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, I would stick in an Officers blob too; while some may see it as a minor distinction from other PMC members, they're the people with the actual corporate power.

Although I like the simplicity of this, I would suggest one of two graphical changes:

- Either: shrink the right-hand side, since it has fewer elements (and since hopefully the corporate/shareholder aspect should be less important in most cases) 
- Or: make it partly like a mathematics set diagram, showing that members and board often intersect with PMCs, committers, etc.; also showing that officers are sometimes not members.

Overall, I think the split between the left and the right is appropriate, even if it may feel like a wall to some.  The membership - primarily through electing the board, but to a significant degree by direct participation in projects and just general members@ traffic - set strategic direction of the foundation and lay the ground rules for how we should work.  The PMCs and committers do everything else - namely, all the actual work of producing software for the public good.  


Oh how I wish I had even the slightest bit of graphics-fu myself.  Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, I would stick in an Officers blob too; while some may see it as a minor distinction from other PMC members, they&#8217;re the people with the actual corporate power.</p>
<p>Although I like the simplicity of this, I would suggest one of two graphical changes:</p>
<p>- Either: shrink the right-hand side, since it has fewer elements (and since hopefully the corporate/shareholder aspect should be less important in most cases)<br />
- Or: make it partly like a mathematics set diagram, showing that members and board often intersect with PMCs, committers, etc.; also showing that officers are sometimes not members.</p>
<p>Overall, I think the split between the left and the right is appropriate, even if it may feel like a wall to some.  The membership - primarily through electing the board, but to a significant degree by direct participation in projects and just general members@ traffic - set strategic direction of the foundation and lay the ground rules for how we should work.  The PMCs and committers do everything else - namely, all the actual work of producing software for the public good.  </p>
<p>Oh how I wish I had even the slightest bit of graphics-fu myself.  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Torsten Curdt</title>
		<link>http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/bayard/entry/821#comment-1231</link>
		<author>Torsten Curdt</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/bayard/entry/821#comment-1231</guid>
		<description>...maybe worth also outlining 'officers'?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;maybe worth also outlining &#8216;officers&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/bayard/entry/821#comment-1219</link>
		<author>Jim</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/bayard/entry/821#comment-1219</guid>
		<description>Kinda similar to my slide from my State Of The Feather talk... I didn't have board "leak" over to the development side, and I had "Officers" as another element on the right hand side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda similar to my slide from my State Of The Feather talk&#8230; I didn&#8217;t have board &#8220;leak&#8221; over to the development side, and I had &#8220;Officers&#8221; as another element on the right hand side.</p>
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		<title>By: Jukka Zitting</title>
		<link>http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/bayard/entry/821#comment-1217</link>
		<author>Jukka Zitting</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/bayard/entry/821#comment-1217</guid>
		<description>The vertical line in the middle looks quite solid... My first impression was that there are two _non-overlapping_ parts to the foundation.

The basic idea of the diagram is good though, but I wonder if it would read better if the two parts were vertically stacked; something like "the foundation supports the community".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vertical line in the middle looks quite solid&#8230; My first impression was that there are two _non-overlapping_ parts to the foundation.</p>
<p>The basic idea of the diagram is good though, but I wonder if it would read better if the two parts were vertically stacked; something like &#8220;the foundation supports the community&#8221;.</p>
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